If Bardock were threatening to surpass him, King Vegeta probably would have done away with him like he did Broly. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). Because he's appeared in so much non-canon material outside of the main series, it can be not easy to get a solid grasp of his actual powerーhowever. Bargeta is the fusion of King Vegeta and Bardock. King Vegeta is the king of the Saiyan race and the head of the royal family. In Bardock, The Father of Goku, near the time of his fateful battle with Frieza, Bardock had a power level of 10,000, which is said to rival that of King Vegeta. Who knows for sure.... pretty sure he was weaker than Vegeta. i KNOW. theres no doubt bardock could not face up to frieza. And He's A KING and he suppose to be a strong warrior but he was killed by 1 single punch. RELATED: How The Dragon Ball Z Movies Could Have Been Canon (Or Alternate Timelines). After he demonstrated his instinctive capability for battle and ever-increasing power that enabled him to keep up with god-level warriors, there's no question that he's a lot stronger than Bardock, and probably was for most of his life. Raditz: 490. It seems that Bardock is mostly in charge when it comes to personality, but mentally King Vegeta is in charge. Until you provide a TRUE SOURCE of Akira Toriyama or Toei Animation stating that or FUNimation admitting that their dub is inaccurate and wrong. After his people were annexed byFrieza'sFrieza Force, he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people. When he isn't writing for CBR, Lavell is usually playing videogames, catching up on interesting anime, or writing novels. no he first asked everyone else to help him. Raditz was considerably stronger then both Goku and Piccolo, after all. While their Super Saiyan transformations wouldn't hold a candle to Goku's, Vegeta's, or even Cabba's, they'd be more than a match for a low-class Saiyan warrior who couldn't even defeat Frieza at his weakest. You can follow him on Instagram @yungvelly. In Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku, the doctors working on Bardock after his injury sustained on Planet Kanassa state that Bardock's power level is nearing 10,000 and I ciould say,what King Vegeta WAS stronger than Bardock,but then he wanted to stop Freeza from destroyng the Vegeta planet,he was stronger than him.I mean serously,Freeza's solders had 1.500-3.000 power levels,and Bardock just beaten all his troops(something like 1.000-2.000 Freeza's troops).Could what do King vegeta?I do not think so.And bardocks last attack might have 20.000-30.000 power level... Vegeta killed the majority of Frieza's elite guards. The techniques King … You go by the jap I go by the english so we dont agree with each other is fine. I wont believe you. If we take that, which is offiial information, into account, then there's no discussion at all. --DARK 16:12, June 30, 2011 (UTC), King Vegeta is stronger, but if Bardock wouldn't have been stubborn and he healed again Bardock would be stronger. Also please sign your post. the english translators didnt get one single line right or translated even close to the original source material. I watch whatever dub or sub I want. King Vegeta's power was surpassed by Vegeta when he was a kid, and I highly doubt that Kid Vegeta didn't increase his strength that much from as a kid to a guy in his early 30s. Lssj4 11:06, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I say that alot don't I lol.Supreme Gohan 09:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Realize King Vegeta is the King of Saiyans. below it. that was a dub line and they dont count. Also, who is the strongest Saiyan in the end of Dragon Ball Z? Nappa: 6,500. While Bardock was sent to conquer entire worlds with a handful of other Saiyans, Vegeta was sent on missions to do the same thing completely on his own, a sign of his raw destructive power and fighting ability that would later lead him to greatness. lol. King Vegeta was strong but against first form frieza...well he was 4 times weaker than nail. Is this hypothetical situation before Bardock went back in time? Unfortunately, in Bardock - The Father of Goku, both Saiyans went down easily when they were up against Frieza's First Form, which speaks more to how superior he was to the Saiyans rather than their own strength relative to one another. He also has a large crest on the seat of his throne. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions King Vegeta(ベジータ王,Bejīta Ō) was the king of allSaiyans and the father ofVegetaandTarble. As the ruler of the Saiyans, there's no question that King Vegeta would wipe the floor with Bardock at the time of his death. Bardocks was 10,000. After struggling to defeat Raditz before that, he later gained enough power to hold his own against Vegeta and handle powerful techniques like the Spirit Bomb and Kaio-ken, the latter crippling a Saiyan elite like Nappa. So if Bardock and King Vegeta fought under normal circumstance I would say that King Vegeta would win. When he and Vegeta first fought in the Tournament of Destroyers, Vegeta remarked that he and Cabba were evenly matched in their base forms. funimation did not translate anyting. Even before Cabba knew how to transform into a Super Saiyan, he was already leagues above Bardock. but hes the king for a reason. the english dub is fake. His mind started whirring with all kinds of thoughts. They where more efficient than Vegeta and his team appearantly since Frieza was actually impressed by them. His name, like his son's, is a pun on "vegetable". Unfortunately for him, Caulifla would be able to deflect his strongest move without even trying. His power level is equal to both of there power levels combined. Power Level. There's no question that Nappa was stronger than Bardock. Vegeta used his charisma to convince the Saiyans to take the planet from the Tuffles as a scheme to obtain power and technology for himself. Initially, Goku struggled to defeat normal Earthlings like Yamcha, Master Roshi, and Tien, all characters that Bardock would defeat without even trying. The line that Bardock's gonna surpass King Vegeta if he keeps this up could have just been a figure of speech or exaggeration to show how rapidly he was increasing in power. I place more merit on Bardock, though, because he has more battle experience of late, whereas King Vegeta sat on his butt the last few years of his life after winning the War vs the Tuffles. What I mean by normal circumstance is whether or not Bardock got furious. The Bardock special is canon if you want it to be. hell they add talking when there was SILENCE in the japanese dub. And he did die in a single punch, sort of like how Bardock was completely dissentigrated by the Supernova. So we technically don't know what King Vegeta's PL was. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. its basically fanfiction with the amount of garbage funi pulled out of their asses. Oh yeah, Bardock's stronger than King Vegeta. I think in the sub all they said was Bardock's power level was closing in on 10k. rewatch the real special, not the fake mistranslated english dub, implying he ISNT as strong as King Vegeta yet. not beyond it. its the original, the source, the real dbz as it should be watched. 2. As a child, Broly was born with such a high power level that his mere existence served as a threat to King Vegeta's rule. At the time Planet Vegeta still existed, Bardock was in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors can go. Though considered as low-class, Bardock is said to have to power level of 10,000 and was close to surpassing the power of King Vegeta himself. After his people were annexed by King Cold's Cold Army he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people; this continued into the Saiyans' time under Frieza's Frieza Force, until the tyrant slaughtered them. 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Lssj4 16:13, June 21, 2011 (UTC). really? He somehow travels back in time after being hit by the blast, and ends up fighting Frieza's ancestor. He wears the Vegeta Royal Family Crest on the left side of his armor, as did Prince Vegeta as a child. Bardock Special Bardock = Closing in on 10k King Vegeta = 10K reported. His power level is stated to be around 10,000. In the span of a few minutes, she progressed from Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2, showing great potential to adapt to situations on the fly quickly. Either way, here are plausible answers. Both King Vegeta and Bardock had a power level of ten thousand in their base forms, but the fusion multiplied their power to over a million, proving that if they were much stronger they could become much more powerful when fused as one. Paragus would probably be the first to go since Bardock and King Vegeta's power level is near 10,000 and his is obviously lower( I know this Because King vegeta almost killed him before on Planet vegeta in the 1st Brolli movie) Bardock: 10,500. Bardock.He could atleast face Frieza King Vegeta would die fighting Frieza's men and vegeta surpassed his on father. If she and Bardock ever sparred, her unpredictable, reckless style of fighting would overwhelm him, and he'd be left with no choice but to bust out his Final Spirit Cannon. Sure, if he went up against Frieza's Supernova, he'd easily be brushed aside as well, but his close association with Vegeta showed that he was no pushover. its not fine. they dont care about some random foreign dub. But whether it's Goten, Trunks, or Gotenks doing the fighting, Bardock would lose every single time. So you only enforced what I said in my previous post. Due to this, Bardock was able to defeat Dodoria's elite soldiers and despite being heavily wounded, also defeated hundreds of Frieza's own troops as well. Even as a young boy, he was leagues above Bardock. King Vegeta's power level is unknown, as it was never actually stated. A list of power levels from Weekly Jump #31, 1989. Exactly no one. Bardock was just a Low-Class Warrior who got a zenkai and they said if he keeps this up he will be almost as strong as King Vegeta, no they never ever said that. Lssj4 16:01, June 21, 2011 (UTC), When Bardock was in the tank, the doctors said his power level was getting close to Vegeta's when they said, "...he might even surpass King Vegeta!" He seemed proud to know this his eldest son had been chosen to go on a mission alongside Vegeta, who definitely didn't have Saiyan riffraff hanging around him. Whoever keeps making my forum worse than it is now stop it or I will tell my parents. Bardock might have been strong enough to lead his own fighting force, but apparently, he wasn't strong enough to accompany Vegeta and Nappa on missions. Lssj4 16:11, June 21, 2011 (UTC), Oh not to mention sign your post. and he did nothing but get killed by frieza. they made up entirely new lines that werent even close to what was in the original. Bardock's gone on to become one of the most popular Saiyan warriors in the series, not only appearing in countless videogames but also going on to have two specials detailing his exploits before and after Planet Vegeta's destruction. He further surpassed Bardock during his training en route to Namek, where unbeknownst to him, he became strong enough to last a few rounds with Frieza in his Final Form. King Vegetas was stated to be above that. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. In Dragon Ball games like Super Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse 2, he managed to excel all the way to Super Saiyan 3. Since Cabba was stronger than Bardock, there's no question that Caulifla is as well. Also he is a strong warrior he was the strongest Saiyan he lost to Frieza because he is so much stronger then them. no it wasnt. my opinion isnt fact. But dont try to make your opinion as fact. King Vegeta was able to hold his position for so long unchallenged because he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of his rule, which is why his son already possessed an insane power level at such a young age. Making him stronger discussion closed.Lssj4 12:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I disagree. NEXT: Dragon Ball Z: 10 Ways The Movies Contradict The Canon. did they need talking every 5 seconds? He was also the commanding hero of theSaiyan Army, and led his people to victory in theSaiyan-Tuffle war, in which the planet was renamed in his honor. the english dub is completely bastardised and wrong. watch the english dub then watch japanese dub. Dragon Ball Minus Edit. Strategy wont matter if you have a higher power level. It shows the he was the actual first Super Saiyan, the beginning of the legend! While fans will always celebrate Saiyans like Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku for their contributions in defending Earth, several other Saiyans have played an important role in Dragon Ball's story as well. it proves nothing. Goten and Trunks became the youngest Super Saiyans in history. A one-stop shop for all things video games. until you accept that toei and akira toriyama are the only legit creators of dragon ball, get out of this fanbase. Goten and Trunks are rarely seen tackling an enemy independently, choosing to fuse into Gotenks whenever they're presented with a challenge. ever. King Vegeta: 11,000. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. The power levels where stated so its final. King Vegeta would die in a single punch. Lssj4 11:01, June 14, 2011 (UTC). If you watched the first few episodes of DBZ then you can tell that power levels change a lot, courtesy of Raditz. i dont think its innaccurate. Since he was a child when he went past his father I would say that King Vegeta’s power level was around the late 12,000/13,000-to possibly 14,000. the portugese dub also got everything wrong. After Planet Vegeta's destruction, Raditz only got stronger. --DARK 17:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC). So King Vegeta must be between 10,000 and 18,000. At this point in the story, Goku has far surpassed Bardock, becoming the first Super Saiyan God in centuries. RELATED: Dragon Ball: Every Non-Canon Android In The Franchise. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. Have you not seen the special? Did you watch the jap one at all? King vegeta power vs bardock exp is what is comes down to. King Vegeta was an unusually intelligent Saiyan unlike the rest of his primitive race. How much stronger? Or are we assuming King Vegeta somehow survived and went back in time like Bardock? Fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. King Vegeta couldn't detect his power level on the scouter, and assumed he had been killed. King Vegeta:15.000(Said to be stronger then Bardock so a guess). During the Tournament of Power, her inexperience became her worst enemy; despite having the raw strength, Goku, who was much wiser and seasoned as a martial artist, maintained a steady upper hand until Kale jumped in to provide her with assistance. Just some random fan who does'nt like the english dub so they call it fake. Frieza:520.000(I am certain this was stated in the Manga and Daiz or something close to this) so there you have it. At that point in the story, Vegeta's base form was so strong that he was able to obliterate someone as strong as Captain Ginyu with just one attack, and could even go hand-to-hand with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks without the need to transform (as shown when Copy Vegeta went up against the young fused warrior). In the saiyan saga Vegeta was like 18,000. In Age 737, shortly before attempting to openly rebel against Frieza, King Vegeta orders newborn Broly to be executed due to his extremely high power level of 10,000, as this amount of power was seen as a possible threat to the royal Saiyan family. It's also stated in a guidebook that King Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan when Planet Vegeta was destroyed so I'd give him a BP of 13,000. As a Saiyan warrior, it was remarked that he was far less powerful than his son Vegeta was even as a child. The only thing i hated is that King Vegeta was almost as powerful as Bardock. 1. or a bullshit innacurate dub line designed to confuse people. do not use the english dub as evidence. Sounds right. whereas he had to personally deal with king vegeta. bardock was a low class who almost died a whole lot. Gohan always possessed a latent, hidden power that was teased throughout Dragon Ball Z, but the moment he would've surpassed Bardock in terms of power most likely would've occurred sometime during the Namek Saga. An English major from the University of Virginia and an active member in New York's television scene, he enjoys meeting people who care about telling good, tasteful stories. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. In a special what-if scenario entitled Episode of Bardock, he ended up becoming the first Super Saiyan. Later, Bardock is seen defeating Toobi and Cabira, two soldiers of Chilled's army with ease. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. They're close in power with King Vegeta in the lead. dub line. and if you dont care about the japanese version then get out of this fanbase. 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